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cracov02@yahoo.fr
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Hi;

I wanted to share with you the latest discoveries of French doctor Laurent Schwartz who is very active on alternative treatments. He discovered the metabolic treatment (lipoic acid + hydroxicitrate) by testing this association on thousands of mice.

A patient with pancreatic cancer contacted him to tell him that he had regressed his cancer with chlorine dioxide, known as MMS treatment.

 

Laurent Schwartz then became interested in it and combined it with his metabolic treatment. He has produced a publication on the subject.

http://guerir-du-cancer.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/chlorite.pdf

"The chlorine dioxide associated with alpha lipoic acid, hydroxycitrate and ketogenic diet (high in fat, limited in protein, and virtually free of sugar) is an inexpensive and non-toxic alternative, the doctor argues. It is a non-violent therapy. Its effects are fast, as early as two weeks. The determination of tumor markers must be frequent and regular to control the evolution of the disease. The clinical results observed in nine patients (three prostate adenocarcinomas, two glioblastomas, three pancreatic adenocarcinomas, breast cancer) are very encouraging. "There is something new and simple to replace and supplement chemotherapy and treat cancer in the short or medium term, if civil society moves! Summarized Dr. Laurent Schwartz."

This is a big hope and I am closely following Dr. Schwartz's new publications on this new treatment as well as the new testimonials that appear on his website.

The address of his site.

Unfortunately this site is only in french for the moment.

http://guerir-du-cancer.fr/

Sylvain

 


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cracov02@yahoo.fr
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and I will add that I have every confidence in the integrity of this doctor who devotes all his time and his own money to develop his alternative treatments. He has nothing to sell. Its products used in its treatments do not cost much and are easily found on the internet. He is known in France for criticizing the effectiveness of conventional treatments 20 years ago, which attracted him many problems.


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Hi Sylvain,

Thanks a lot for sharing! I very much appreciate it! I haven't seen this article yet from Dr. Laurent S. I am looking forward to see if he can indeed confirm MMS acts against cancer cells via increasing the intracellular acidity.

For those interested in understanding the relevance of intracellular pH  https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/ph-cancer-a-top-treatment-strategy/

And here I will paste the two case reports presented in the article, for those who are to lazy to go to the link 🙂

Patient number 1

The first case is a 65 year old French gentleman with biopsy-proven unresectable well differentiated adenocarcinoma of the pancreas in June 2016 . The cholestasis was treated by a derivation in December 2016 which was effective in alleviating the obstruction. The tumor markers (CA 19-9 and CEA) were uninformative. The patient subsequently refused chemotherapy and decided by himself to start a treatment involving
1) Ketogenic diet
2) Lipoïc acid 800 mg twice a day and hydroxycitrate 500mg three times a day
3) Chlorine dioxide up to 32 drops per day. Chlorine dioxide was produced by the activation of NaCLO2
by 4% HCl. The activation time takes 3mn and a drop contains around 86 micromoles of CLO2 if the
activation is total.

As of 9/2017, the patient was living normally, the blood tests were normal, the tumour mass such as seen on CT scan had grown from 3 to 5 cm. No side effects were noted. There was no concomitant chemotherapy or radiation therapy.

Patient number 2

Having heard of the first case, a second patient started a similar treatment. He is a 67-year-old man. He
was diagnosed in 8/16 with Gleason 8 adenocarcinoma of the prostate responsible of a cord compression that was successfully treated by laminectomy and post op radiationtherapy. At the start of disease PSA was 1320. Degarelix was started in 8/16 with concomitant ketogenic diet. Because of partial responds chemotherapy with Docetaxel (150mg IV) was started in December 2016. Chemotherapy was discontinued after two cycles because of poor tolerance. Simultaneously, starting In mid November metabolic treatment with lipoïc acid as well as hydroxycitrate. He performs weekly assessment of his PSA.

End of march, the PSA had dropped to 27 and stayed at this value up to beginning of June, but started increasing, in three weeks from 27 to 52 (figure 1). Metastatic pain increased and was responsible of Karnovsky of 70. At that stage the patient started to take chloride dioxide. The PSA dropped linearly for eight weeks to 26. The patient took eight times a day, 344 micromoles of chlorine dioxide. After these eight weeks of decrease, the PSA started to increase in three weeks from 26 to 39. At that stage, metastatic pain, which has almost completely disappeared, was responsible of insomnia. He started to take chlorine dioxide drops not only during the daytime but also every 90 minutes at night. Nightly metastatic pain decreased drastically from day one, and the second part of the night was practically pain free. The PSA decreased again linearly from 39 to 24.


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Daniel
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Totally agree, Sylvain: I came in contact several times with Laurent and I have same opinion about his intentions. 


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cracov02@yahoo.fr
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Hi,

I am actively learning about chlorine dioxide and have discovered things. Here is the site of a German doctor living in Spain who took over the work of Jim Humbre on the MMS.

https://andreaskalcker.com

A lot of information on the site about the use of chlorine dioxide.
Conference in Spanish with testimonials of cancer patients treated by the MMS in the 37th minute :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWPxUXcip4w

The French doctor laurent Schwartz, as indicated in my previous posts, has achieved very amazing results by coupling the use of chlorine dioxide and its metabolic treatment. I am very hopeful about this new treatment and I realize that many doctors in Europe have already been interested in it, with seemingly convincing results. But in France it's just starting.

 


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Daniel
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Hi,

Thnaks for the info. I have two questions:
1. could you please add a link that works? I tried the one above but it dosen't.
2. could you plase add references on the work of dr. Schwatz related to the amazing results when using MMS?
Thnak you.

Kin dregards,
Daniel


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cracov02@yahoo.fr
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Hi Daniel,

Sorry for the link :

https://andreaskalcker.com/en/

And for the amazing results I was referring to the publication that I indicated in the previous messages.
And to this announcement made by Laurent Schwartz a few weeks ago that seem to confirm the results of the first publication.

"The chlorine dioxide associated with alpha lipoic acid, hydroxycitrate and ketogenic diet is an inexpensive and non-toxic alternative, the doctor argues that it is a non-violent therapy. The clinical outcome is observed in nine patients (three prostate adenocarcinomas, two glioblastomas, three pancreatic adenocarcinomas, breast cancer ) are very encouraging. "If it's something new and simple to replace and supplement chemotherapy and treat cancer, if civil society moves! Summarized Dr. Lawrence Schwartz. "

Results that will probably appear soon in a future publication.

In addition, the idea of ​​associating chlorine dioxide with metabolic treatment was suggested to Dr. Schwartz by Mr Fischman who, with the help of this treatment, was 3 years later free from any symptoms. He died recently, but it was not because of his cancer that had been under control for 3 years who for pancreatic cancer was a great feat.

And he himself had been advised by a painter friend who had treated his cancer of the pancreas with chlorine dioxide only.

In french

http://guerir-du-cancer.fr/deces-de-norbert-fischman/

http://guerir-du-cancer.fr/temoignage-de-norbert-fischmann-cancer-du-pancreas/

And then there's these testimonials in Spain at Dr. Kalcker's conference that appear in the video I put in my previous posts.

I had seen videos in the US on the use of chlorine dioxide for cancer but I did not believe it. But since Dr. Schwartz became interested in it and starting to get results, I changed my mind.

 


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Daniel
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Thanks a lot Sylvain! That sounds very interesting indeed. Like you, I also did not gave much attention to this one (since not much science on it an cancer exists) but now I will pay more attention since I trust Dr. Schwartz. I see a good discussion here  http://guerir-du-cancer.fr/chlorine-dioxide-as-a-possible-adjunct-to-metabolic-treatment/

Thnaks again!


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Yes, there is an early explanation by Dr. Schwartz on the effectiveness of chlorine dioxide on cancer:

"the mitochondrion pumps protons if the intracellular pH is alkaline these protons will not return to the mitochondria, it also alkaline and there will be no synthesis of ATP. I imagine that chlorine dioxide normalizes the intracellular pH"

I hope that in the next few months they will be able to demonstrate scientifically the functioning of this molecule in order to be able to develop effective treatments because at the moment it seems to work on some people but it remains very empirical.

As soon as I learn more I keep you informed.

Sylvain


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cracov02@yahoo.fr
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Hi Daniel,

here is a video of Dr. Schwartz where he presents the first amazing results obtained with the dixoyde of chlorine.
It's very convincing. I subtitled this video in English. I hope it will be understandable.

cancer treatment with chlorine dioxide

Sylvain


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Hi Sylvain,

Perfect! Thanks a lot! I will contact Dr. Schwartz now.

Kind regards,
Daniel


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This is exciting! As with many other metabolic treatments, the ALA, hydroxycitrate, ketogenic diet and chlorine dioxide treatment has rapid response onset. Patients would not need to stick with a treatment that was not going to be effective for them. I would like a better feel for the safety, though.


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@daniel

My wife (breast er+,pr-,her2-, met liver,bones,lung) found one of your latest articles about fermentation while we were trying to find reliable info on whether or not to take Alpha-lipoic Acid while on chemo (Navelbine) and following the COC-protocol. 

We keep reading articles again and again but we re getting lost with all the contradictory information that we come across.

My wife has been following COC + aspirin, curcuma melatonin 4mg for 2 months. She is also taking lipoic acid (800 mg as recommended by Dr Schwarz but without hydroxicitrate) + baicalensis + chemo (navelbine). But the ca15-3 marker keeps increasing.

We are afraid of doing something wrong taking lipoic acid with coc and chemo. Schwartz says lipoic acid improves glicolysis and is therefore anticancer. So, is this ok or is it neutralising the kill effect of chemo ??? We are completely lost and really hope you can help us. Thanks a lot.

Thierry (Dirk) and Nadine


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@cracov02yahoo-fr

We found your conversation with @Daniel when searching for info on ALA and chemo, and thought he or you might be able to help us with our questions. 

My wife (breast er+,pr-,her2-, met liver,bones,lung) found oyour posts about fermentation and the metabolic approach while we were trying to find reliable info on whether or not to take Alpha-lipoic Acid while on chemo (Navelbine) and following the COC-protocol. 

We keep reading articles again and again but we re getting lost with all the contradictory information that we come across.

My wife has been following COC + aspirin, curcuma melatonin 4mg for 2 months. She is also taking lipoic acid (800 mg as recommended by Dr Schwarz but without hydroxicitrate) + baicalensis + chemo (navelbine). But the ca15-3 marker keeps increasing.

We are afraid of doing something wrong taking lipoic acid with coc and chemo. Schwartz says lipoic acid improves glicolysis and is therefore anticancer. So, is this ok or is it neutralising the kill effect of chemo ??? We are completely lost and really hope you can help us. Thanks a lot.

Thierry (Dirk) and Nadine


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cracov02@yahoo.fr
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Unfortunately, I won't be able to help you much. I am not a doctor and it must be admitted that all of this is very complicated. What I can tell you, however, is that Dr. Schwartz used metformin with his metabolic treatment (lipoic acid plus hydroxycitrate) but the results were not good and he stopped using metformin. .
And I know that the use of metabolic treatment (which includes two very powerful antioxidants) is not compatible with certain chemo. But I won't be able to tell you which ones.
I also know that the metabolic treatment (lipoic acid + hydroxycitrate) can give good results if it is combined with some form of chemo.
From what I knew a few months ago, Dr Schwartz associated metabolic treatment with chlorine dioxide. But he seems to have given up on chlorine dioxide and now uses methylene blue which seems easier to use. And it seems to have good results sometimes. But I can't tell you if it works on breast cancer.
I hope these few pieces of information can help you.
I give you the site of Dr. Schwartz.
https://guerir-du-cancer.fr/
Unfortunately it is in French. But if you need help, I could help you translate some parts. The site is unfortunately very quiet since the covid.
Schwartz noticed that people on methylene blue don't get covid. And he's refocused his work on covid right now.
I wish you a lot of courage in these difficult times.
Sylvain


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@dirk-martin

Dear Dirk, 

Navelbine (Vinorelbine) is a microtubule destabilizing agent. This is its main mode of action that in principle, doesn't have to do anything with the pro- and anti-oxidant aspects.

However, it is also known to induce oxidative stress in cancer cells:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19837156/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5661396/

Therefore, in this case, I would not use ALA (which is a strong anti oxidant) for a time frame of several days before chemotherapy and about 7 days after chemotherapy, in order to allow for the maximum anticancer activity of Vinorelbine.

If I can help with anything else please let me know.

Kind regards,
Daniel

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Posted by: @cracov02yahoo-fr

Unfortunately, I won't be able to help you much. I am not a doctor and it must be admitted that all of this is very complicated. What I can tell you, however, is that Dr. Schwartz used metformin with his metabolic treatment (lipoic acid plus hydroxycitrate) but the results were not good and he stopped using metformin. .
And I know that the use of metabolic treatment (which includes two very powerful antioxidants) is not compatible with certain chemo. But I won't be able to tell you which ones.
I also know that the metabolic treatment (lipoic acid + hydroxycitrate) can give good results if it is combined with some form of chemo.
From what I knew a few months ago, Dr Schwartz associated metabolic treatment with chlorine dioxide. But he seems to have given up on chlorine dioxide and now uses methylene blue which seems easier to use. And it seems to have good results sometimes. But I can't tell you if it works on breast cancer.
I hope these few pieces of information can help you.
I give you the site of Dr. Schwartz.
https://guerir-du-cancer.fr/
Unfortunately it is in French. But if you need help, I could help you translate some parts. The site is unfortunately very quiet since the covid.
Schwartz noticed that people on methylene blue don't get covid. And he's refocused his work on covid right now.
I wish you a lot of courage in these difficult times.
Sylvain

Thank you for the response Sylvain.

Indeed, methylene blue seems to be an effective tool against COVID - typically used with a nebulizer.

Kind regards,
Daniel


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