This is a fascinating field in cancer treatment. While various electro-magnetic-wave-based solutions have been proposed during the past century to treat cancer, only recently this treatment strategy started to gain momentum as both academia and the industry started to recognize the value. In this context, field based solutions for cancer treatment have even been approved recently by FDA to treat specific types of tumors.
While the electro-magnetic-waves-based solutions are of many types, including many highly relevant categories, in this section I will focus on the portable devices only and like always capture solutions that have both shown positive outcomes in humans and are also accessible to most of us (which is the case for at least one of the devices discussed below, i.e. ECCT).
First, here is a little about why such solutions are effective: Today it is well accepted that electric/electro-magnetic fields are interfering with the process of fast dividing cells and this subject has been covered multiple times in the famous magazine Nature (e.g. see Ref). Specifically, the fields exert directional forces on polar microtubules and interfere with the assembly of the normal mitotic spindle. Such interference with microtubule dynamics results in abnormal spindle formation and subsequent mitotic arrest or delay, possibly due to improper attachment of chromosomes to the spindle fibers. Cells can die while in mitotic arrest, or if the progression to cell division still takes place the abnormal daughter cells can die in the subsequent interphase, can undergo a permanent arrest, or can proliferate through additional mitosis where they will be subjected to further tumor treating fields assault. http://www.nature.com/articles/srep18046 So there are various points where the fields can interfere with the cell division. Next to that, I believe that another relevant action of the fields is via their interference with ion dynamics which is a highly relevant process in the fast dividing cells.
When applying fields to interfere with cancer cells the frequency for the applied field matters. On this line note that:
– patients with the same tumor type had biofeedback responses to the same frequencies, irrespective of their sex, age, or ethnic status http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19366446/
– Frequencies identified as relevant for cancer cells were predominantly found above 1 kHz.
– Although the specific findings and subsequent hypotheses differ, the literature strongly suggests that exposure levels to EMF can impact Ca2+ flux; however, the biological significance of these fluctuations remains unclear and the demodulation mechanism leading to changes in Ca2+ flux has not yet been elucidated http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3845545/
In this field, I am aware of three major devices that have been applied in clinical trials and demonstrated effectiveness against various types of cancers:
- ECCT (Electro-Capacitive Cancer Therapy) from CTech Labs Edwar Technology Company
- Optune from Novocure Ltd.
- OncoBionic from Therabionic solution
Of these devices ECCT is the most accessible device and the results are very promising.
Here is a short summary on each of them based on the limited information I have:
ECCT (Electro-Capacitive Cancer Therapy)
Status and application: This is a device made by the Indonesian company CTech Labs Edwar Technology. ECCT (Electro-Capacitive Cancer Therapy) is a method for treating cancer using low intensity and low frequency source of electro-static waves that generate electric polarization in near field region confined by a number of capacitive electrodes embedded in apparels to wear daily by the patients. The technology was invented by Dr. Warsito P. Taruno and his team in Indonesia. Here is the Facebook page as well https://www.facebook.com/EdwarTechnology/
The devices and usage: Principally, the ECCT consists of the apparel as a support of the capacitive electrodes and oscillator to generate electric wave with certain intensity, waveform and frequency. The ECCT specification for treating cancer is determined by the coverage of the apparel, the frequency, the intensity and waveform of the oscillator, and the time of usage of the equipment that correlate to time exposure of the cancer to electrostatic wave. For complete removal of the cancer, the apparel design is essential in the treatment method, and must be customized according to the tumor position and its staging. In principle, the coverage of the apparel is divided into two types: global coverage for metastasize prevention and local customized coverage for total destruction of the primary tumor. The apparel can be designed in the following forms: a jacket, a head cover, a blanked to be used e.g. during sleeping hours. The frequency, intensity and waveform of the oscillator, and the time of usage are determined based on the grade of malignancy of the cancer, the pathology anatomy and the electric properties of the cancer cells. In general, the higher the level of the staging and the higher the degree of the malignancy the more responsive of the cancer to the electric wave and thus the less time needed for exposure as the body has limited capacity to absorb and the resulted dead cells. So for example for <1cm tumors the usage is of 6—8 hours per day and usually it takes 3—6 months to completely clean up the tumors while for >5cm tumors the usage is 4X30 minutes per day depending on the condition of the patient. The usage time for brain cancer treatment is set started with very short time, e.g. 4X15 minutes per day, and increased gradually with the improvement of the clinical conditions of the patient. (Ref).
Results: very good results for many types of tumors including breast, brain, lung, etc. See http://www.c-techlabs.com/brosur/ECCT_Brosur_Eng_New_Small_2015.pdf and the You Tube movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir_5o4Imqz4
Side effects: Unknown
Cost: Cost is in the range of few to several k USD (and that it is yours, i.e. not rented) so it is the most accessible devices out of all discussed here.
Access: This is the most accessible device as it can be obtained directly from the manufacturers. After sending the medical files the apparel will be designed according to the tumor location to be treated or as a maintenance device to minimize the chance for tumor recurrence or metastasis. The best is to travel to the manufacturer location for the most personalized design of the apparels.
Technical details: ECCT (Electro-Capacitive Cancer Therapy) is a method for treating cancer using low intensity and low frequency source (frequency <100KHz and intensity of <30Vpp) of electro-static wave that generates electric polarization in near field region confined by a number of capacitive electrodes embedded in apparels to wear daily by the patients. The technology is invented for the first time by Dr. Warsito P. Taruno and the team in CTech Labs Edwar Technology Company (IDN Patent REG P00201200011, 2012)
Patents related to ECCT: 3D AND REAL-TIME ELECTRICAL CAPACITANCE VOLUME-TOMOGRAPHY: SENSOR DESIGN AND IMAGE RECONSTRUCTION https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2006102388&recNum=154&docAn=US2006010352&queryString=SGK&maxRec=620
References:
Scientist awarded for cancer therapy
List of multiple references on Tech Labs Edwar Technology website.
Status and application: This is a portable device made by the Israeli company Novocure. It has been recently approved by FDA for Glioblastoma and is in clinical trials for multiple types of cancers including those of lungs, ovarian and pancreatic. Here is the Novocure Pipeline: http://www.novocure.com/our-pipeline.aspx
The devices and usage: Essentially the devices consists out of electrodes placed in direct contact with the skin in the region surrounding the tumor inducing an alternating electric field within the tumor that attracts and repels the charged components of the cells during mitosis. The complete delivery system includes a portable electric field generator and rechargeable batteries and it is designed to be worn continuously throughout the day and night. The design is such that it will allow patients to go about their daily activities while receiving treatment. The minimum number of hours recommended to patients is 18 hours per day. http://www.optune.com/
Results: In a phase III trial on glioblastoma, it has been concluded that efficacy and activity with this chemotherapy-free treatment device appears comparable to chemotherapy regimens that are commonly used for recurrent glioblastoma. http://www.ejcancer.com/article/S0959-8049(12)00352-8/abstract
Here is an extended overview on the results with Optune http://astrocytomaoptions.com/electric-field-therapy-novo-ttf/
Side effects: Dermatitis (rash) beneath the transducer array has been the most common side-effect.
Cost: As of December 2014, treatment with the Optune device cost $21,000 per month, with many patients receiving treatment indefinitely, or until tumor recurrence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_electric_field_therapy
Access: Treatment Centers http://www.optune.com/find-treatment-center/list.aspx
Technical details: The generated fields are low-intensity (1–3 V/cm) intermediate-frequency (100–300 kHz), alternating electric fields and the optimal frequencies of the system seems to be in the range of 150Hz to 200Hz http://www.nature.com/articles/srep18046/tables/1
Patents related to Optune:
Method and apparatus for destroying dividing cells
Optimizing characteristics of an electric field to increase the field’s effect on proliferating cells
References:
Mitotic Spindle Disruption by Alternating Electric Fields Leads to Improper Chromosome Segregation and Mitotic Catastrophe in Cancer Cells http://www.nature.com/articles/srep18046
Status and application: This is a device made by the US company Therabionic solution. Dr. Boris Pasche had worked for years with a battery-operated device to treat insomnia, but as he followed his research, he discovered that electromagnetic radiation from the apparatus might slow or stop tumor growth in some cancer patients. Although the technique is relevant for most types of cancers, Therabionic seems to focus on Hepatocellular Carcinoma (HCC).
Update October 2018: TheraBionic P1 electromedical device has received European regulatory approval for use in the treatment of advanced hepatocellular carcinoma. Professor Boris C. Pasche, CEO of TheraBionic Inc. reported this achievement on our website https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/devices/frequency-devices/#post-701
The devices and usage: In 2009, Pasche and his colleagues published results in the Journal of Experimental and Clinical Cancer Research which showed that low-level electromagnetic fields at precise frequencies – ranging from 0.1Hz to 114kHz – halted cancer cell growth in small numbers of patients. Different cancers responded to electromagnetic fields of different frequencies. Cells in surrounding, healthy tissue were unaffected. The anti cancer effects can be essentially applied to any form of cancer. The procedure is such that first a biofeedback is used for the identification of tumor-specific frequencies that can then be applied to selectively influence cancer cells. (Ref.) Patients hold the mouthpiece in their mouths but are free to carry on other activities such as reading, watching TV and walking while receiving treatment. The frequencies were emitted sequentially, each for 3 s from the lowest to the highest frequency, and the cycle was continuously repeated for 1 h. Treatment was administered 3 times a day, i.e., for a total of 3 h. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3845545/
Results:
– Already in 2009 the results were promising: “Thirteen patients were evaluable for response. One patient with hormone-refractory breast cancer metastatic to the adrenal gland and bones had a complete response lasting 11 months. One patient with hormone-refractory breast cancer metastatic to liver and bones had a partial response lasting 13.5 months. Four patients had stable disease lasting for +34.1 months (thyroid cancer metastatic to lung), 5.1 months (non-small cell lung cancer), 4.1 months (pancreatic cancer metastatic to liver) and 4.0 months (leiomyosarcoma metastatic to liver).” http://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-9966-28-51
– phase I/II study on HCC: Treatment was well tolerated and there were no NCI grade 2, 3 or 4 toxicities. In all, 14 patients (34.1%) had stable disease for more than 6 months. Median progression-free survival was 4.4 months (95% CI 2.1-5.3) and median overall survival was 6.7 months (95% CI 3.0-10.2). There were three partial and one near complete responses. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21829195/
Side effects: Four of the 69 (5.8%) patients enrolled in these two studies had grade 1 somnolence after treatment and 1 had grade 1 mucositis (1.4%). There were no grade 2, 3, or 4 toxicities in any patient, even among very long-term users. No changes in complete blood count, kidney function, or hepatic function were observed in any patient. Importantly, this therapeutic approach has long-lasting therapeutic effects in several patients with metastatic cancer. Two of these patients, one with recurrent thyroid cancer metastatic to the lungs (Figure 4) enrolled in our feasibility study (Barbault et al, 2009) and the patient shown in Figure 3C, are still receiving treatment without any evidence of disease progression and without side effects almost 5 years after being enrolled in these studies. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3188936/
Cost: Unknown
Access: contact http://www.therabionic.com/contact.html
Technical details: Generation of amplitude-modulated electromagnetic fields: the device consists of a battery-driven radiofrequency (RF) electromagnetic field generator connected to a 1.5 meter long 50 Ohm coaxial cable, to the other end of which a spoon-shaped mouthpiece made of steel is connected with the inner conductor. The RF source of the device corresponds to a high-level amplitude-modulated class C amplifier operating at 27.12 MHz. The modulation frequency can be varied between 0.01 Hz and 150 kHz with a modulation depth of 85 ± 5%. The output signal is controlled by a microcontroller AT89S8252 (Atmel, Fribourg, Switzerland), i.e. duration of a session, sequence of modulation frequencies, and duration of each sequence are programmed prior to the treatment with a PC connected to the panel of the device. The RF output is adjusted to 100 mW into a 50 Ohm load using a sinusoidal modulated test signal, which results in an emitting power identical to that of the device used in the treatment of insomnia. The following frequencies were common to most patients with a diagnosis of breast cancer, hepatocellular carcinoma, prostate cancer and pancreatic cancer: 1873.477 Hz, 2221.323 Hz, 6350.333 Hz and 10456.383 Hz. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672058/
A total of 1524 frequencies ranging from 0.1 to 114 kHz were identified during a total of 467 frequency detection sessions (Table (Table1).1). The number of frequencies identified in each tumor type ranges from two for thymoma to 278 for ovarian cancer. Overall, 1183 (77.6%) of these frequencies were tumor-specific, i.e. they were only identified in patients with the same tumor type. The proportion of tumor-specific frequencies ranged from 56.7% for neuroendocrine tumors to 91.7% for renal cell cancer. A total of 341 (22.4%) frequencies were common to at least two different tumor types. The number of frequencies identified was not proportional to either the total number of patients studied or the number of frequency detection sessions (Table (Table11). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672058/
Patents related to OncoBionic: Electronic system for influencing cellular functions in a warm-blooded mammalian subject http://www.google.com/patents/EP1974769A1?cl=en Disclosed is an electronic system activatable by electrical power. The system is useful for influencing cellular functions or malfunctions in a warm-blooded mammalian subject. The system comprises one or more controllable low energy HF (High Frequency) carrier signal generator circuits, one or more data processors or integrated circuits for receiving control information, one or more amplitude modulation control generators and one or more amplitude modulation frequency control generators. The amplitude modulation frequency control generators are adapted to accurately control the frequency of the amplitude modulations to within an accuracy of at least 1000 ppm, most preferably to within about 1 ppm, relative to one or more determined or predetermined reference amplitude modulation frequencies
References:
Treating cancer with amplitude-modulated electromagnetic fields: a potential paradigm shift, again?
Cancer cell proliferation is inhibited by specific modulation frequencies
Targeted treatment of cancer with radiofrequency electromagnetic fields amplitude-modulated at tumor-specific frequencies
100mW, 27.12 MHz carrier amplitude modulated at 100 Hz to 114 KHz, specific to a tumor type. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to sweep the AM frequency at say +-5% to 20% to bracket the tumor differences, mutations etc. ? Are there really set resonant frequencies that can be used with confidence on a particular tumor type or are these best guesses that will be improved with testing? Also, using a fixed frequency from multiple stationary sources will result in nulls and hot spots that might be moved in the field by sweeping. The reports are impressive but I have to overcome the fact the technology is reminiscent of medical device scams I’ve seen since I was very young. Looks impressive though.
Hi Fred, I agree that there are a lot of open questions. Based on some of the statements above there are indeed resonant frequencies that are connected to tumor types regardless of their sex, age, etc. But I am sure there is more to find out in that area. The standing wave related question is also interesting. I guess that changing the electrode location from time to time would help. The blanket from ECCT would address that issue to some extend. For now, I appreciate their promising results and since there is no time to wait I will test the accessible options currently available.
I hope the results are beyond your expectations. Keep us posted.
Thanks a lot Fred. I will.
So far I have a friend using it (ECCT) since about one month ago and while it is difficult to associate the results 100% with the device (due to other treatments) the markets are stable or going down.
FYI. CTech Edwar Technology in Indonesia has been ceased by the government due to unclear reasons. Dr. Warsito is currently continuing his research on ECCT in Warsaw, Poland.
Sharif, can you please add references to your statement? To my knowledge CTech Edwar Technology is still active in Indonesia and relatively recently they were even awarded for their contribution to society http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/08/21/scientist-awarded-cancer-therapy.html
If there are no serious references to the above statement I will consider the comment as misleading and will have to remove it. Thanks in advance.
http://sains.kompas.com/read/2015/12/08/19342901/Kontroversi.Rompi.Antikanker.Warsito.Apakah.Kaji.Ulang.Cukup
Apologies that the news is only in Indonesian. Currently there are no international media reporting this situation. The Indonesian Health Ministry have ceased CTech in Dec 2015 for further review. According to their report, Dr. Warsito has opened an illegal practice of clinical/medical treatment. That’s why it has been closed. They expect further clinical/medical tests on ECCT.
I regret the decision, but it already happened.
Checking Dr. Warsito’s facebook page, he’s now at Curie Institute of Oncology in Warsaw, Poland. I’m not sure if he’s at that institute or somewhere else, but for sure he’s doing something related to his ECCT invention there. Perhaps worth contacting him to ask the current situation. 🙂
Anyway, I’m a physicist, but only an observer in this case. I’m working on a totally different field. 🙂
Hi Sharif, thanks a lot for the fast and helpful response. No problem if is in Indonesian – Google Translator solves that 🙂
It will be difficult for them to get ECCT through the typical clinical trials without the support of the government … and the device will probably remain an alternative option.
Fortunately, although not exactly the same, Novocure demonstrated that such devices have both science behind and clear potential and this may help ECCT even if there will be not enough financials to go into clinical trials.
Hi Daniel, has been a long time. I forgot to check into your reply. According to the media, C-Tech are now having a collaboration with the Indonesian Health Ministry and the Ministry of Research & Technology. But it seems that government’s response is very late. The government is not ready enough for something ‘new’ like warsito’s ECCT, neither they are ready with the dynamics of research or novelty of research with a long term purpose. As an Indonesian researcher having a carreer outside Indonesia, I can explain in many ways the sentence ‘governement is not ready’. 🙂
To my conclusion, perhaps it’s better that Warsito’s ECCT is further developed outside Indonesia.
warsitos hasnt been proven yet in indonesia. its still controversy in indonesia. now hes in warsaw poland to prove it. just wait for the result.
Daniel, have you been able to start with this?
Yes, Meech but cannot make a statement on effectiveness yet. I would anyway not rely on this solution only and I would add it next to others – this is what we are doing.
Hi Daniel —
Any updates about your wife’s use of the ECCT device? -not just its efficacy (which I assume is too early to determine), but any observations, how well she’s tolerating it, etc.
I’m particularly curious because my wife was diagnosed 6 months ago with stage-IV non-small-cell adenocarcinoma of the lung, which has metastasized to her liver and bones. Six rounds of carboplatin + Alimta shrank the main tumor in her lung, but since moving onto “maintenance chemo” (Alimta alone), the metastases have increased and she’s in a lot of pain. Her cancer has the EGFR mutation so they’ll be starting her on targeted therapy (Tarceva) next week, but I’d like to also give the ECCT device a try. I reached out to them on their Facebook page and someone got right back to me (requesting her latest scans), but I’m still waiting to hear back about the cost and if she would have to travel overseas for it (we’re in the US). Any more info from you would be appreciated. If you’d prefer to reply by e-mail, that’s fine too.
Best —
Robert
Robert,
I understand what you are going through.
My wife has stage 3B Breast CA with bone Mets on the sternum.
I’m an American Interpreter/Translator located in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I hope this message reaches you in time and your wife is still fighting like a champion.
I’m counting on this ECCT vest (as well as nutrition and God) to save my wife.
I will gladly help you should you have difficulty acquiring the ECCT device. Godspeed, John Bennett
Hi Robert,
Your post went to spam waiting for my approval – sorry for the two days delay to accept your post. If you made an account from now on you should be able to post without my approval. I am sorry your wife and you have to go through all this …
Answering your questions: difficult to say if it is efficient but there is no side effect. She is using it 2x/day but she is not using the blanket yet. I do not think you need to travel in order to get that. If you send the scans and the dimensions of your wife it should be enough to make the jacket and send it to you by mail.
Next to ECCT I would clearly add other treatment strategies like those mentioned in my other posts, such as Salinomycin.
The tumor in the lung and the mets in the liver can be addressed with TACE.
To increase chemo effectiveness: https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/?p=970
For bone pain this may be relevant http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304395913004934 PhenylButyrate may help on the same line. Although it is met and not primary Doxycicline may help: Doxycycline: http://weeksmd.com/2012/11/an-old-antibiotic-for-metastatic-bone-cancer/
To limit other mets Cimetidine, Modified Citrus Pectin, Honokiol and Nattokinase can all help.
I hope this helps. If you have specific questions you can ask them by e-mail as well Robert and I will try to help if I can.
Kind regards,
Daniel
Hi Daniel,
How is ECCT therapy working for you wife?
She is just using it now. We are doing many things. She is alive now and will be for long time to come due to these “things”. We will never be able to say if ECCT was the one or a combination of everything we are doing but to me, based on all the science behind, ECCT is one of those helping.
Hi Daniel,
Whats your view on Photodynamic Therapy & focused Ultrasound Therapy.
http://cancercompassalternateroute.com/testimonials/neuroblastoma-healing-with-alternative-treatments-connah-broom/
I also read that Ultrasound therapy has been approved for some types of cancer.
Hi, Photo Dynamics Therapy is a very relevant option (but I am not sure how it could be done at home for tumors inside the body and not as the surface as it seems to be suggested in the enclosed link).
Ultrasound Therapy is very relevant too, but in professional environment where high power systems are being used and focused on the tumors. In the enclosed link they suggest using ultrasound portable devices at home which can not be compared in terms of delivered energy to the tissue with the professional devices. I did shortly checked the ultrasound portable devices and some of them are coming with the following warning:
“It’s recommended they not be used over cancer tumors, because of a concern that the energy could speed growth, they say.” http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303730804579439911570346896
I would have to check what is the reason for that but I guess, they will increase the blood flow to the tumors. This would be helpful if combined with other therapies or if the tumors are small and the immune system is in good condition, but if the tumors are large and the immune system is down while not using any other therapy it may not be it may not be wise to use. However this is just my interpretation after a very short research on the subject.
Finally it may be a good idea to use such devices during IV administration (of e.g. Salinomycin) and focus them in the tumor area to increase the blood flow. Th penetration of the sound waves seem to be in the range of several cm.
Hi my wife is a cancer patient she is entering terminal phase
She has cervical cancer about 5 cm in size or more and few nodule in lungs as well I heard about ECCT I have all the equipment but haven’t used it yet because we are not sure Wetherby we can use it after chemotherapy and radio therapy
Can anybody guide me on this please ?
Hi, I would not use this wording “terminal phase” as she may live longer than many on this planet.
I am not aware of any negative interference with chemo or radio. We are using it constantly with or without other treatments and my wife feels that helps.I hope this helps a little. However if you still have concerns why don’t you contact the Indonesian team?
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Thanks Norman. Very innovative approach! I will check the details when I find the time as I have special affinity for magnetism.
Another clinic that uses Electrical Field Jacket for treatment is in Japan:
http://www.saisei-mirai.or.jp/gan/ttf_tumor_treating_fields_eng.html
Tumor Treating Fields (TTF)
Electrical Cancer Therapy
Treating cancer with low-intensity electrical fields to suppress cancer cell proliferation.
| What is TTF? | Mechanisms | Adaptation | Treatment methods | Safety | Cost |
What is Tumor Treating Fields (TTF) therapy?
Tumor Treating Fields (TTF) therapy is a type of electromagnetic field therapy using low-intensity electrical fields to suppress cancer cell proliferation in the body.
This treatment dates back a long time. TTF is a treatment to generate electrical fields in the human body, leading to the suppression of local cancer cell proliferation. With this treatment, cancer cells can be destroyed, triggering apoptosis. This is the basic concept of TTF. Normal cells on intestinal mucosa can proliferate, but since cancer cells are smaller than normal cells, cancer cells don’t destroy normal cells.
Effectiveness of the treatment
The effectiveness of TTF is considered to be similar to that of chemotherapy. However, chemotherapy has side effects which destroy normal cells as well. It is not recommended to be used for long term treatment because of drug resistance and accumulation of toxicity. TTF on the other hand is considered a safe treatment which doesn’t have any problems in terms of drug resistance and accumulation of toxicity . Also, it is possible to use TTF with other conventional treatments such as chemotherapy. We believe that there are synergistic effects using TTF with immunotherapy, especially GcMAF macrophage activating factor. We recommend GcMAF be used in combination with TTF for best results and to achieve complete systemic treatment.
Thanks. Do you have experience with TTF or Saisei clinic?
Hi, Daniel
No, I don’t,
In research for Alternative treatments, I encountered their site (saisei-mirai) ,
Hi Daniel, How are effects of using ECCT?
Hi.
We live in Australia, my husband has brain cancer and we would like to try ECCT. Can anyone tell me where I can purchase ECCT.? My husbands tumour is growing and we are running out of options.
Linda
Hi Linda, I am sorry to hear that. Here is the address of the marketing director of the Indonesian location [email protected]. I was in contact with him sometime ago and was a nice person. Also sometime ago another patient bought the device from this person Robert Weber +49 172 45 90 153 [email protected] who was working with the Indonesian researchers and reselling their devices in Europe. I hope this helps.
Hi Daniel,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply. I have sent emails to both those addresses.
Linda
Hello Linda,
We live in Melbourne. My wife has a Brain Tumour which is advancing despite repeated chemo. I too am looking at the ECCT system.
Have you made any progress in obtaining it?
Bruce
Dear Bruce, if the tumor is advancing under typical chemo you may want to consider chemos that are known to kill cancer stem cells. Salinomycin is one (with no major side effects) but you can find others.
Hi Bartek. I cannot asses the effectiveness of the device but if I would have to deal with cancer and I could afford, I would buy it. This is what I did actually for my wife. She felt ECCT was helping when she was using it. That is all I can say. As a result, ECCT should be one of multiple treatments I would use (in parallel) to fight cancer and not the only one I would use.
Hello Daniel,
Did you have any difficulty in importing the ECCT to where you live?
Hi Bruce, as far as I know, others have not had any issues importing the equipment. however I had. it was stuck in Iranian Customs for 2 months! and it was only cleared after I bribed a couple of officials which cost me 1000 USD! it’s probably just Iran but I felt like you need to know.
Hi Bruce,
In western countries should be no difficulty. In the end this is just an electronic equipment. I haven’t heard anyone having difficulties other than Pouya, and I expect what happens at the Iranian borders will not apply to the Australian borders.
My last info is: Robert Weber is still in contact and can organize a ECCT, but he did not ask me for ct- or mri-scans. So, I think, they still doe it, but not with the same quality, focusing on the tumor. The price is now 2900 EUR.
Bye Katja
Thank you Katja! Will you still get it for free?
Hi Daniel, Robert Weber is the one, who offers still the ECCT-advice, made in Indonesia. (jacket, hat or blanket)
The advice, I can get for free ist the Therabionic from Dr.Pasche.(a metal part to wear in the mouth and a battery-box)
I understand. Thank you for clarifying, Katja.
Hi Daniel,
I came across your post (now a year old!) and I’d like to know:
-is your wife still using the ECCT?
-how much did it cost you?
-any benefits? did she improve after start using it? (I know it might have been down t other treatments)
I’m asking since I have a colon cancer that has spreaded to the lungs and was wondering whether the jacket would be any good.
Thanks!
Hi Lorena,
Unfortunately I have to first refer you to this post https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/?p=1997
My wife did used the jacked every now and then and she felt it was helping. But I feel it is more of a tool to add in the background next to other treatments. It is not something to use as a single cancer treatment, in my view. The cost is about 3k euro.
Depending on the number of the tumors at the lungs I would strongly consider TACE or Cryoablation besides the various options I am discussing here.
If you have questions on the above, just let me know.
Kind regards,
Daniel
Hello dear friends.
I remember a statement in a video. “Those with cancer that got struck by lightning and survived it, had no more cancer afterwards”.
This got me thinking what if there’s any truth about it. And yes there are numerous devices claiming good results, very very very expensive sadly.
One of my hobbies has been electronics, building audio amplifiers and other things. Nothing special.
BUT… if something does work i am sure i could get a hold of some people who are qualified to develop a device that we could all use for a more down to earth price.
More information and feedback needed.
Also i was thinking of a device that would use the internals of a microwave oven, for local focused hiperthermia, sadly such a procedure if applicable would still probably be very expensive. Microwaves sound better than protons to me…. and if i am right i don’t understand why proton therapy is being used instead of microwaves.
Cheers,
Alex
Is there still a jacket or a blanket to sell? I was just sent home with a combined liver and bileductcancer, to organize hospice. Can`t find Dr.Warsito, can^T afford the therapy in the private hospital.
Thank you for any hints Katja, 57y
Hi Katja, I am sorry to hear about the condition. Please read through the website – you may find something relevant. Is there any specific treatment you are planning? Which of the therapy you meant you cannot afford? Regarding those selling the jacket, I know there was a man buying in EU from http://www.wmedicalsystems.com who was collaborating with the Indonesian team. You could also try to contact Fauzan [email protected] who was one of the team member in Indonesia. In any-case, please consider more treatment options next to this one. Also please let me know if you succeed getting to the blanket – if not I will think of potential options. Kind regards, Daniel
Dear Daniel, first of all: thank you for the huge amount of information, that you collected. That must be a great love.
I already contacted the above adresses, you mentioned.
Dr.Posche will be in Lausanne (13.9. till 15.9.17) and give away the device for free. One can go over the website, ask for the device and then get a time table, to make an appointment…
Is it possible, to quit my lastname from the posts? I would feel better…
Best regards Katja
Hi Katja,
You are very welcome! Great to hear you can get the device for free! 🙂 I removed your last name from previous post.
Please make sure you add more treatments in parallel to increase the chance of success.
Kind regards,
Daniel
Thank you for your care… I doe take THC and CBD in high conzentrations, inject the mistletoe, take the Artemisia orally, Maitake and GcMaf-injections. The next steps are: Artesunate infusions and the tumor treating fields.
Is there any interst, to open chapters about THC and GcMaf? Best regards Katja
Dear Katja,
you are very welcome and thank you for the donation. I very much appreciate that as very few people are considering not only to receive but also to give. However, from one of your previous comments I understand that your financial situation is difficult. This is why I refunded your donation so you can use the money for the treatments as they are expensive. You will probably receive the refund in a few days and thank you again so much for doing that. Regarding your questions, I would like one day to write on THC as I think it is very relevant. GcMAF is controversial and I do not really know what to think about it. I know some dr. saying they saw results. Maybe I will anyway write a piece on it some day. But there are so many subject I still need to address 🙂
Since you are in Germany, maybe you can find a clinic where they use Curcumin IV from Curafacktur – that is whole plant extract and I have a very good feeling regarding its effectiveness.
Kind regards,
Daniel
hi katja
do you have his contact/website?
thanks
Here is his contact:
Email: [email protected]
Web site: http://www.TheraBionic.com
If there are no appointments to make, ask, if he will be there again.
good luck Katja
thank you katja
In the meantime I got the advice and use it, like recommended three hours daily. I got it on compassionate use- means for free. For that I give my laboratory and ct-scans to Prof.Pasche every2 to 3 months and have an examination in Lausanne.
When it is on the market it will cost around 4500 EUR per month and the plan ist, that the insurance has to pay for it. If anybody has questions, please ask.
It feels so good, to work with it.
I used the TheraBionic advice for five months and gave it back, as I developed brain mets. I bought the ECCT jacket just a month ago bevore I knew about the brain tumors and would sell it for 1000 EUR (a third of 2900 EUR,) as it does not cover the head… As I got quite a large jacket, to cover my bone met at the pelvis, it should fit even a man… contact, if you are interested
Dear Katja, I am so sorry to hear there is progression. I had the ECCT equipment including 2x head cover, 2x jacket and 1x blanket. I already donated 1x head cover and 1x jacket, but I should be able to find the other head cover at home. I am not sure if the size fits you, but if you like I can donate that to you. Please let me know. Kind regards, Daniel
Dear Daniel that is so generous. I would really like, to try it. I refused, to have scans any more, because they trigger my thyroid to much. But I would watch my symptoms and if progressing, I would give it back to you.
Besides the drug of the care oncology clinic, I take melatonin by night. May be thats of interest for you an d new topic: http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2004/1/report_melatonin/Page-01
There are alot more invesstigations found on ncbi . I am looking forward, to hear from you. Katja
Hi Katja, i am glad I can help! Please send me your address by e-mail. I will check this evening when I am back home but I expect it will be easy to find the head-cover. I guess you do not need the power supplier since you already have one or two with your ECCT? If you like, you can also write me a summary on what conventional and alternative treatments you did, what you are doing and what you intend to do, so I can generate ideas around that line. Kind regards, Daniel
Dear Katja. Last night I answered your e-mail and today I send the ECCT head cover to you by post. I hope it will be of help to you. Kind regards, Daniel
Thank you so much, that is very generous.Whish you a good weekend. Best regards Katja
You are very welcome dear Katja, and if you have questions related to my e-mail please let me know and would be glad to try and help. Kind regards, Daniel
@Dear Daniel – I am considering the ECCT equipment including the head cover and jacket to treat my brain mets (from NSCLC) along with my tyrosine kinase inhibitor, Avastin IV and Ketogenic diet. Do you know of the latest success rate or success story in treating brain mets / brain tumors ?.
Would you kindly let me know the latest contact details of the manufacturer/supplier for the ECCT equipment?. I live in Sydney and Indonesia is the closest when compared to Europe. Also, if there is a good quality second hand (used) ECCT equipment that is lower cost than the new equipment, that may be an option for me to consider too – if you know of one, I would appreciate if you could kindly let me know.
@Dear Katja – can I ask if the ECCT equipment with head cover and jacket help with resolving your brain mets?. Can I also ask what primary cancer do you have?.
Thank you sincerely for your help.
Dear Westie,
The person from whom I ordered the equipment in Indonesia is Fauzan, e-mail fauzanzidni (at) gmail.com He was the marketing director as I remember. When using ECCT, my wife felt that is helping her for the lung tumour we were dealing with. I did sent to Katia some of my equipment (donation) but she did not had the chance to use it. She contacted me to send it back to me but I did not accepted as I wanted her to think positively about her future. I never heard from her from that point.
As I had two ECCT head covers, the other one I donated two years ago to a lady with brain tumours from breast cancer. She is still using it and she is well.
One other source for ECCT some years ago was Robert Weber with e-mail address robert.weber (at) wmedicalsystems.com. I do not know if he is a reliable person or not but I know some people were ordering it from him. I think he was working with the research team from Indonesia and reselling them in Europe. I think these are the same people https://www.facebook.com/EdwarTechnology/
You can also try to check with Lars at https://alunglife.com, maybe he knows a good source. I remember he was also ordering his for his wife.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Daniel
Dear Daniel,
Thank you sincerely for your reply – it is immensely helpful. I am most grateful.
Regarding the lady with breast cancer that had brain mets that is using the ECCT and is doing well, kindly let me know how to get in touch with her so I can understand first hand her experience with ECCT and how it helped ?.
This will hopefully gives me more confidence in perhaps investing a few thousand dollars in the ECCT system.
With gratitude,
Raymond
Dear Raymond,
You are very welcome. The lady using the ECCT I donated to her is a ~35 years lady, work colleague of my mom in Romania. That is how I knew her, not via this website. I do not keep contact with her – I just ask my mom from time to time about how she is doing and if she is still using ECCT (I asked her to give it back if not using so that I can give it to someone else). So it’s difficult to get her here – I don’t think she even has a computer.
Kind regards,
Daniel
Thank you sincerely Daniel.
Hello Westie i know pounding person who is trying to sell a team of ECCT of second hand,she tells me that it has only been used twice,if you want I can put you in touch with her,and you talk about all the details.
kind regards .
Marcos
Dear Marcos – thank you. That would be good. My e-mail is: [email protected]
Please drop me an e-mail with her e-mail contact details.
Thank you again
Raymond
received will send you an email with all the information.
kind regards.
Marcos
Hi Westi.
The person who has ECCT has tried to contact you but it seems that the email gives error.Please check.
Kind Regards.
Marcos
Hello Marcos – thank you for touching base again.
If [email protected] doesn’t work, try [email protected]
Regards,
Raymond
Hello,
Is there any news about ECCT treatment? Is the safety and effectiveness of this treatment currently known with greater certainty?
Thank you very much.
Regards
Hi Pop,
I am not aware of any major news on this line Pop. But I also haven’t specifically researched the subject. So, it makes sense that you do some research and see where things are, ad if you find any relevant news, it will help others if you can share the findings here as well. Thank you in advance.
Kind regards,
Daniel
THE COST OF ECCT IN THE USA IS ABOUT 4300..DONT EXPECT ANY GUIDENCE OR HELP FROM DR.S HERE .THEY ALL LOOK AT YOU AS IF YOU SUGESTED RUBBING TEA LEAVES ON THE TUMOR