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AnneBMS
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Dear Daniel, dear forum
My husband has NSCLC stage 4. He was diagnosed in June 2019 and has since had 5 different treatments. In December last year we were told that they have no more standard treatments to offer and no suitable clinical trials, so he was send home without treatment and is slowly deteriorating.
This is breaking my heart. I am devastated and desperately looking for other treatment options outside the established health system.
Some one alerted me to the promising effects of hydrogen inhalation therapy for lung cancer and I researched the subject and came across were promising real life studies and an impressive case report.

Since then I have been searching for a hydrogen inhaler that produces 3L/min, but I can only find machines with an output of max 900ml/min.
Does anyone know where I can get hold of a machine with an output of 3L/min? The machine must be safe in regard to explosion as well as not producing any dangerous fumes.
If this is not possible, would it be feasible to use to machines producing each 900ml/min and inserting two tubes at the same time into my husbands nose (with my husbands consent, of course)?
Thank you so much for your help. 


   
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dng050
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The Asclepius from China produces 3 L/min of hydrogen gas. It can be purchased from outside China. I think you might get a discount from the Facebook group "Hydrogen (Brown's Gas) + Deuterium Depleted Water (DDW) Experience Group".


   
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AnneBMS
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 Dear dng050 

Thank you so much for your answer.

The Asclepius machine is the one that was used in the research I mentioned in my first post. I contacted the company to inquire if I could buy it as a private person, but they did not answer my mail.

How is it possible to buy it outside China? It it the real machine or a copy, do you know?

And also do you know how much it costs?

Thank you so much.


   
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Daniel
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Dear @annebms

I am so sorry to hear about the challenges and hope your husband will be better and better.

@manuone has more information where hydrogen inhaler that produces 3L/min can be accessed. Please try to contact him, and I am sure he will help.

For more discussion on Hydrogen please read the following:

https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/hydrogen-gas/

https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/hydrogen/

And here you will find some interesting, relevant case reports:

https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/10-cases-of-complete-remission-from-stage-4-cancers-after-using-supplements-or-repurposed-drugs/

I woudl consider Silver nanoparticles as well, that is easy to produce at home https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/a-silver-bullet-to-kill-cancer/

Trans Arterial Chemo Embolization to the lungs is also a highly relevant approach to locally address tumors.

This Korean Traditional medicine may also be relevant https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/rhus-verniciflua/

Kind regards,
Daniel


   
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Manuone
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@annebms I'll be happy to help in any way I can.  Daniel can send you my personal email and I will try to resolve any doubts.

Kind regards


   
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AnneBMS
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Dear Daniel
Thank you very much for your kind words and for the many informative links. It is so kind of you.

In one of the links, I read about something called 3-BP. Do you know what it is?

In regard to nano-silver, I would be nervous about giving it to my husband. To my distress, he has already become much more fragile, and something which might be toxic in higher amounts I would be afraid to give him.

Only yesterday I came across this article: "Molecular Hydrogen Enhances Proliferation of Cancer Cells That Exhibit Potent Mitochondrial Unfolded Protein Response", published in the International Journal of Molecular Sciences, March 2022.

Do you know this article? And if yes, what do you think about it? It makes me afraid that using hydrogen inhalation might instead speed up the proliferation of my husbands cancer instead of inhibiting it....??!!
It is a study of cancer cells, and the cells that proliferated because of hydrogen were: A549, HeLa, HT1080, and PC3 cells.
I am not familiar with these cells, but I think that the A549 cell is a lung cancer cell with a KRAS-mutation.

Thank you for your help.

 

Kind regards from Anne


   
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AnneBMS
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Dear Manuone
Thank you so much. I would be very grateful for your help in finding a hydrogen inhaler that produces 3L/min.
Could I write to your private email?
Kind regards from Anne


   
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Daniel
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Posted by: @annebms

Dear Daniel
Thank you very much for your kind words and for the many informative links. It is so kind of you.

In one of the links, I read about something called 3-BP. Do you know what it is?

In regard to nano-silver, I would be nervous about giving it to my husband. To my distress, he has already become much more fragile, and something which might be toxic in higher amounts I would be afraid to give him.

Only yesterday I came across this article: "Molecular Hydrogen Enhances Proliferation of Cancer Cells That Exhibit Potent Mitochondrial Unfolded Protein Response", published in the International Journal of Molecular Sciences, March 2022.

Do you know this article? And if yes, what do you think about it? It makes me afraid that using hydrogen inhalation might instead speed up the proliferation of my husbands cancer instead of inhibiting it....??!!
It is a study of cancer cells, and the cells that proliferated because of hydrogen were: A549, HeLa, HT1080, and PC3 cells.
I am not familiar with these cells, but I think that the A549 cell is a lung cancer cell with a KRAS-mutation.

Thank you for your help.

 

Kind regards from Anne

Dear Anne,

3BP is on of the main reasons why this Blog has been started, and it has been addressed in the first pot on this Blog. 

I did not know the article. Thank you for sharing. I checked a bit more the literature and this article seems to be an outlier vs most of the literature, as most of the literature including the many reports coming from China indicate this solution adds value to life. There are various reasons that could explain why in some experiments in the lab the results may indicate negative contribution while in others as well as in real life it seems to add positive contribution.

Just one reason, for example, is that typically, strong antioxidants can exert pressure on tumors from outside in. More specifically, ROS often contributes to the tumor progression by influencing the tumor microenvironment, while strong antioxidants inhibit that process. I addressed this subject in a bit more details here https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/modulating-the-yin-and-yang-energy-of-cells-to-fight-cancer-pro-oxidant-strategy/

However, nobody can say 100% what is best in each case. We can only have an educated guess based on the literature and reports. Next to that we have to look at what we feel its right. If we have doubts about using one treatment option, its best to move on to others since there are many out there as discussed in many posts on this Blog.

Kind regards,
Daniel

 

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Manuone
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@annebms of course!


   
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Jcancom
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@dng050 

Have you heard about the results for taletrectinib?


   
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dng050
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Hi, @jcancom. No, I have not heard. Are they good? Last time I heard about taletrectinib, my fellow Facebook group members mentioned that it was going to trial in China. Since it seemed difficult to access, I have not been following that space. Have you? 


   
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Jcancom
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I happened upon these results while reading about 3-BP. The response rate appeared to be impressive, though I can now see that we are still only in phase 2s and this could take quite some time to reach patients. It is so frustrating in cancer to watch as decades go by while treatments are stalled in clinical trials. With 3-BP, it has been stuck in development limbo for decades without even beginning a clinical trial (until possibly recently).

https://www.jtocrr.org/article/S2666-3643(20)30154-5/fulltext

 

Best Wishes, Jcancom


   
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