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Meech
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01/09/2017 8:36 pm  

I just got back from Mexico city after having done treatment with Dr. Williams this past Monday. The treatment consisted of me being put under general anesthesia, followed by the cryoablation of one large tumour in the liver, along with the injection of three different types of immunotherapy drugs (PD-1, PD-L1, CTLA4 inhibitors).

The actual procedure lasted about two hours. Prior to this, I was hooked up to an IV, had bloodwork drawn twice and was able to speak with Dr. Williams at length about the procedure.

I woke up with minimal pain. My only pain was in my nephrostomy tube site; Dr. Williams assumed that it was because of the anesthetic and the relaxation of those muscles. I took 2mg hydromorphone and the pain ceased and never returned.

About a day after the procedure, I developed a fever of about 39.4 degrees celsius. Generally a low grade fever happens but mine happened to be a bit higher grade. The fever has now subsided to a low grade one (around 37 degrees),  three days after it began.

On top of the procedure, Dr. Williams recommends a list of supplements to increase the efficacy of treatment. Off the top of my head, these include:

Cyclophosphomide, aspirin/celebrex, januvia, Cialis, Pantoprazole, Propranolol, and a probiotic. All are taken at varying schedules (eg. cyclophosphomide is 50mg once every two days; januvia is taken 7 days on, 7 off; Cialis is daily for three months). He also recommended eating a lot of cashews.

 

I'm happy to answer any other questions people may have, and I hope to continue updating everyone as time goes on.

Edited: 3 months  ago

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Daniel
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01/09/2017 9:22 pm  

Great to hear from you Meech! What is the proposal of dr. Williams as next steps? Also what was the cost so far? Do you have any idea about the doses used for the immuno therapies? Thank you, and again, very nice to hear from you!


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Meech
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01/09/2017 9:32 pm  

Good to be back, I've been a bit busy with all the treatment stuff so I haven't posted as much. The cost of treatment was about $55,000USD. Typically it's within the $50-60k USD range. Then on top of this, the stay at the hospital and use of their facilities (CT scan room, bloodwork, etc.) is about $2000-$5000 USD depending on your stay. My stay was $2200USD. I will say that the facilities are excellent. You get a very large private room with a TV, your hospital bed, and a pull-out couch type of thing for a visitor, as well as a private bathroom. Nurses come to check in on you quite frequently. From what I understood, this is a "private hospital", so not quite a clinic, and not a crowded state-run hospital.

 

I'm actually unsure of what the doses were but I may try to see if I could get the documentation of my treatment in the coming days.


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Meech
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01/09/2017 9:37 pm  

Forgot to answer the next steps.

 

The next steps are basically to take the medicines and supplements as recommended and to do CT scans and bloodwork to monitor my condition. He said that the supplements increase the efficacy of the immunotherapy by about 30% so it seems pretty imperative to take it all. Prior to treatment, Dr. Williams' team sent me a dropbox link full of resources/academic journals explaining why these particular drugs help the immunotherapy be more effective.

 

Dr. Williams also mentioned that some cancers are much more challenging to induce a response with, although they aren't impossible. He said colorectal cancer would be one where there are more difficulties. And this can be seen through conventionally administered immunotherapy being a pretty big failure with CRC.


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Daniel
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01/09/2017 10:37 pm  

Thanks for the details Meech. Expensive indeed. Cryo + imuno could lead to a systemic response. I do not know Januvia and Cialis but all the others are known a enhance the immuno response via different mechanisms. I also added sometime ago some of the ideas on supporting the immune system when doing the immunotheraphies on the Dendritic Cell post and anti PD1 post, in case you may want to have a look at them. Best wishes!


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Meech
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04/09/2017 8:31 pm  

Thanks Daniel, I'll check it out.


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Emad
 Emad
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05/09/2017 12:17 am  

nice to hear from you meech , I strongly believe that things is going good

is this kind of treatments are done in cycles or its just done only once ? probably how much the treatment will remain killing cancer ?

also , did he targets all the big tumors around the body or just targeted the liver tumors ?

 

thank you so much , always wish the best


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Meech
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07/09/2017 5:12 pm  
Posted by: Emad

nice to hear from you meech , I strongly believe that things is going good

is this kind of treatments are done in cycles or its just done only once ? probably how much the treatment will remain killing cancer ?

also , did he targets all the big tumors around the body or just targeted the liver tumors ?

 

thank you so much , always wish the best

Hi Emad,

ideally, the treatment is only done once. For me, he only targeted liver tumours and said that the liver microenvironment is such that inducing a systemic response is more likely when the liver is treated. For example, he said that more often, he tends to see lung tumours shrink if he does the liver, but less frequently will see liver tumours shrink if he treats the lung. It's important to note that the ablation is only a secondary treatment used to induce a better immune response. The immunotherapy is the main treatment.


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Emad
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09/09/2017 12:01 am  

This sounds very good Meech

Thank you , always love to hear good news from you


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marcosbomber901
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04/10/2017 7:17 pm  

Hi Meech

Can you tell me the dosage of the medicines your doctor Jason Williams recommended after the immunotherapy.Januvia,propranolol,esomeprazole and aspirin/celecoxib.

thank you


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gregg_gaffney@hotmail.com
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25/11/2017 12:44 am  

Hello all,

 I am new here and have been following your comments for a couple of months. I have stage 4 colon cancer with mets to the liver, lymph nodes, and a nodule on the lung. I do not want to do the chemo or radiation. I have started on panitumimab and doing a bunch of herbs from a healer in the mountains

of mexico who family has been healing people for many generations, who is not known here. The description of the herbs is pretty much all in spanish and the proper scientific names are not there, as well

as being improperly spelled so it will be a real chore figuring out what is what. Is there anyone out there who might know someone who I can forward these names to, so they can be translated into something I can understand. Also I noticed that Meech had had some work done by Dr Williams and was hoping he could let me know how he was doing. I am having real trouble tracking down Dr Williams old clients to find out how they have done over time. He is a very expensive alternative but when you are out of options you are out of options. Has anyone else had work done by Dr Williams in the last couple of years, I noticed he had done some work with 3bp and salinomycin in columbia several years ago but cannot find a trace of what happened to the people he treated or the results from this either. I would really appreciate any help anyone can give me.

Thanx Greg

 


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gregg_gaffney@hotmail.com
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25/11/2017 12:53 am  

Hello Meech,

 My name is greg from canada and I have been following Dr Williams as well as I can. I cannot seem to find

any old clients of his to find out how they have been doing with his procedures, I am quite interested in his services but just terrified to spend the type of money he wants without doing some thorough research before hand. Do you know of a website or somewhere where these referrals on what the product he is delivering have done. He may be the nicest guy in the world but I need to know how these people are doing and have done with his procedures. I would appreciate any help you can give me and hope you are well.

Thanx Greg 


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faithhope0601@gmail.com
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28/11/2017 5:55 am  

Dear Meech 

Thanks for your detailed response. I am diagnosed with ovarian cancer (Stage 3c Low-grade  serous carcinoma ) and going to seek treatment with Dr William and the protocol is very similar to yours 

How do you feel now and I would like to know if you experienced any other side effects during the past few months, any improvement from the treatment?

Any added information would be helpful as I am scheduled to meet him few weeks.

Thanks 

Faith 

 

 


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Meech
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09/12/2017 5:27 am  
Posted by: [email protected]

Dear Meech 

Thanks for your detailed response. I am diagnosed with ovarian cancer (Stage 3c Low-grade  serous carcinoma ) and going to seek treatment with Dr William and the protocol is very similar to yours 

How do you feel now and I would like to know if you experienced any other side effects during the past few months, any improvement from the treatment?

Any added information would be helpful as I am scheduled to meet him few weeks.

Thanks 

Faith 

 

 

 

Hey sorry for the late response.

 

The side effects I got in the first month were fevers and joint pain. Now I have itchy skin a ton but I'm unsure if it's from the therapy or other processes but immunotherapy does carry a high chance of skin reactions.

 

My CT in October (6 weeks post procedure) was horrible. My liver was completely covered, new spinal metastases, increase in size and number of lung nodules and tumours. Compression of various vessels.

 

Paradoxically though, I've been feeling way better for the past month and a half or so, than I did leading up to the procedure and in the 1.5 months post procedure. I rarely get liver pain anymore, which was constant before.

 

My troubles come from an anemic state and a sympathetic nervous system issue I got 2.5 years ago. It makes it very hard to get up and walk. But apart from this, and very high fatigue, I feel good. Very little pain, good appetite, etc.

 

I have however developed cachexia and some ascites.

 

I hope the post helps even though it only amounts to "I have no clue what's happening" and again, I'm very sorry for the late reply. I know time is valuable for you all.


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Meech
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09/12/2017 5:28 am  
Posted by: [email protected]

Hello Meech,

 My name is greg from canada and I have been following Dr Williams as well as I can. I cannot seem to find

any old clients of his to find out how they have been doing with his procedures, I am quite interested in his services but just terrified to spend the type of money he wants without doing some thorough research before hand. Do you know of a website or somewhere where these referrals on what the product he is delivering have done. He may be the nicest guy in the world but I need to know how these people are doing and have done with his procedures. I would appreciate any help you can give me and hope you are well.

Thanx Greg 

Hi Greg.

 

My response is one post above. I'm quoting you in hopes that you get an email notification.


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