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The idea of reorganizing content on the forums and blogs could be of great value in getting important information to those reading the site. Thanks to Johan's technical understanding of RSS we have already made a great deal of progress to make individual forum threads more organized. In his recent RSS url to his blog, Johan demonstrated how RSS feeds can allow someone to selectively choose which forum posts will be included (interestingly Johan included only his own posts, none of mine; I do not feel slighted in the least). Even this ability to have editing control over posts is a big step forward. We are making incremental progress! If we could gain access of the full RSS feed for the Syro Met thread, then even now we could polish it up.

Perhaps as another demonstration, Johan might create an RSS feed for the posts related to RSS from the Syro Met thread and place a url on this thread. What might be even better is if the posts could be dumped into the blog software for this forum so that the posts could be part of the natural feel of the forum and would not be disturbed by future updates from the other thread. It would be a way of scooping up a bunch of posts and then reposting them somewhere else.

Another idea that I have is that threads should be typically retired after they reach ~200 posts ( roughly 10 thread pages). What could happen is that after about 200 posts a new thread could then be created with nearly the same name (e.g., Syro Met part 2). The idea here is that this would be an easy way for readers to see ideas that actually generated lasting interest. The part 1 of the thread could be mostly about generally exploring a treatment idea and later parts could be devoted to increasingly specific implementation details.

The idea of creating a curated form of a thread also seems appealing. On Johan's blog there is a list of content from D's site. What might be helpful is for a thread to be presented with each subtopic a clickable link just like on Johan's page. For exmaple, the syro Met thread could be subdivided into listed topics such as syro dosing, RSS feeds, cotreatments etc.. Each of these would be their own RSS feed of content, yet now each would have organized content. In this way each thread could be organized by topics and edited for quality etc. . This would be a great step forward. With Johan's idea of adding the word "off-topic" (and perhaps other tags such as syro dosing, cotreatments ...) we could further enhance the effectiveness of communicating on forum.   

One aspect of this that I am unclear about is most of the forums that I have visited do not appear to have RSS feeds for each thread. D's is one of the only I have seen with this feature. Is it difficult to enable RSS on a thread?

Organizing online content will be of great help to us and to the many billions of other people who are online and participate in threads.      


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 Very useful idea! thanks J and Johan!


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Thank you Manuone!

I think that this idea should go viral. Everyone who reads threads, blogs etc. should benefit. The actual technology needed to make this happen seems very basic. It basically can be a programming revolution from the grassroots. All that is needed is access to the RSS feed. 

Below is the current RSS feed from the Combo Met and Syro!!!! ... thread. Johan might you show us how to edit this feed? My guess is that all that we need to do is edit the below and then it can be exported to a url and we are done. Once we know the editing process we are well on the way to moving this ahead. The only sticking point here is that now we need you to post the RSS feeds to your own blog. Ideally D could have the same RSS agregator software which would allow him to post the feeds here. The best that those without RSS knowledge could do now is edit the feeds and then post them to the forum and let D (or someone else) post them to an RSS.     

 

 

Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! - Metabolic Inhibitors https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/ Mihaela Catalina Stanciu Foundation for Life, Discussion Board en-US Sun, 24 Nov 2019 1637 +0000 wpForo 60 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1568 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 1609 +0000 The RSS party has moved <p>The RSS party has moved.</p><p> https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/forum-for-various-discussions/rss-upgrade-organizing-content-on-the-blog/</p> Metabolic Inhibitors Jcancom https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1568 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1565 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 1456 +0000 Posted by: @jcancom Johan, could you show us that you can remix the thread by selecting a few posts on a theme that do not follow in sequence? Perhaps the recent posts that talk about remix... <blockquote data-userid="162" data-postid="1558" data-mention="jcancom"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @jcancom </strong></div><p> </p><p>Johan, could you show us that you can remix the thread by selecting a few posts on a theme that do not follow in sequence? Perhaps the recent posts that talk about remixing the threads? </p><p> </p></blockquote><p>Hi J, I reverted the remix back to posts on the topic:</p><p><a href="https://www.inoreader.com/stream/user/1005029157/tag/METF%20%2B%20SYRO%20COMBO/view/html?cs=m"> https://www.inoreader.com/stream/user/1005029157/tag/METF%20%2B%20SYRO%20COMBO/view/html?cs=m</a></p><p>Forum posters could add the word "off-topic" to a post, which could make filtering fast and easy. </p> Metabolic Inhibitors johan https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1565 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1564 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 1344 +0000 Posted by: @jcancom ^ I can see what Johan means, there must be a setting limiting the RSS feed to some limited number of posts from this thread. Exactly, the owner of the RSS feed is in con... <blockquote data-userid="162" data-postid="1563" data-mention="jcancom"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @jcancom </strong></div><p>^</p><p> I can see what Johan means, there must be a setting limiting the RSS feed to some limited number of posts from this thread.</p><p> </p></blockquote><p>Exactly, the owner of the RSS feed is in control and can limit what he or she wants to share. Sometimes the limitations are also built-in, for example, the forum software may have settings that don't allow for the entire thread history to be included in the RSS feed, that's why I asked Daniel to check on this. </p> Metabolic Inhibitors johan https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1564 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1563 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0246 +0000 ^I think I am starting understand a bit about RSS now. When I click on the RSS symbol at the top of this page, I receive a text file with the posts on this page with code. When I click on th... <p>^</p><p>I think I am starting understand a bit about RSS now. When I click on the RSS symbol at the top of this page, I receive a text file with the posts on this page with code. When I click on the RSS symbol of any page on this thread, I receive the same text file with the same posts. I can see what Johan means, there must be a setting limiting the RSS feed to some limited number of posts from this thread. What I also noticed was that with the text file it would be an easy matter to delete posts or perhaps fix typos, arrange the posts as you chose etc.. This is part of what I had in mind with the people's programming idea. After editing the thread as you wanted then one could simply apply a url to the feed and you would be done. The feed would report the entire history of the thread. You would have a url that could be used to direct people to the new polished up thread! This is great! It is an easy idea that will make our life better. Perhaps posters could even be given their own individual RSS feed so that all of their latest discoveries could available to those interested.</p><p>While this is somewhat peripheral to our purposes on the forum and in particular on this thread, it will be of great benefit to us. Fortunately, most posters can look forward to benefits without a great deal of exertion.</p><p> </p> Metabolic Inhibitors Jcancom https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1563 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1562 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0256 +0000 ^I forgot!Thank you for your support Johan ^. I think that this is an important step forward for internet technology. I am glad that someone with technical experience can confirm my hunch... <p>^</p><p>I forgot!</p><p>Thank you for your support Johan ^. I think that this is an important step forward for internet technology. I am glad that someone with technical experience can confirm my hunches and give confidence that this idea makes some sense. This will allow for others on the forum to also show ^ support, knowing that this is an idea that makes sense as opposed to say perpetual motion machines etc.. I truly believe that this could help billions of people live better lives. Help us make life better ^ </p><p>Thank you also for the offer on the 3-BP thread. This is great!</p><p>If we can post the RSS idea around people will see the benefits immediately! Give people free stuff! What are they going to say: "No I don't want free stuff" ? No, they will back up the truck. Here everyone, free wealth, a better life for everyone. I feel great! I have made (actually I guess it is actually Johan) Humanity better.</p><p>The threads, as they exist now, are not efficient. They do not effectively communicate ideas to people. This thread upgrade idea is an easy way to make people's life better. And the great part here is that typical posters can just sit back and cash their cheques (no effort is required). One additional feature that might not be totally clear yet is that the url Johan posted of the RSS feed could perhaps be posted by any poster. We could all post remixes if we wanted to, so it does not have to be something forced on people, from the top: this can also be something that emerges from the bottom. As Johan showed, adding a url into the middle of the thread could be done without hardly any administrator oversight (perhaps eve permission), so it will not be a burden for D to add this upgrade. Job 1 for this thread will be obscuring all of these posts about thread technology.</p><p>Thank you again Johan. This has been a big day. I wasn't totally sure myself whether this idea made any sense; apparently it does. Strangely, when I looked up RSS technology, many of the articles were suggesting that it was in decline. With this application, it could come leaping back! Why hadn't anyone thought of this before? </p><p> </p> Metabolic Inhibitors Jcancom https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1562 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1561 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0152 +0000 I have noticed that a poster to this thread, Manuone, is treating with metformin combined with canagliflozin and was considering adding in syrosingopine. (Manuone, what dosage of canaglifloz... <p>I have noticed that a poster to this thread, Manuone, is treating with metformin combined with canagliflozin and was considering adding in syrosingopine. (Manuone, what dosage of canagliflozin are you using?) Fortunately, he does not appear to have pursued this treatment as yet. From what I currently understand such a combination would likely be very dangerous. My expectation at this time is that the tumor mass might completely shut down with such a combination. </p><p>Given that canagliflozin monotherapy dosing can situate patients on the downhill part of the response curve, adding syrosingopine could shift the curve leftward and allow the existing canagliflozin dose to push cancer cell viability possibly to 0. Roughly, dosing with canagliflozin creates an environment in which there is no slack on the line; adding in syro would then result in reeling in under tension. That much treatment power would be dangerous in relation to TLS.</p><p>This insight needs to be understood by those taking it and brought to the attention of those distributing syrosingopine in order that the risks can be disclosed to patients and minimized. We saw what happened with 3-BP without regulatory oversight; serious risks were introduced. To a certain extent a shadow FDA from the user community needs to arise to protect the self-interests of patients. Clearly responsible suppliers will provide this information to their customers. Perhaps the FDA could even put a black box warning on canagliflozin to alert patients to this risk. </p> Metabolic Inhibitors Jcancom https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1561 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1560 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0126 +0000 @jcancom^ I'll get back tomorrow on the remix request! And I'll be happy to help with the cancer compass 3-BP thread 🙂 <p>@jcancom</p><p>^ I'll get back tomorrow on the remix request!</p><p> And I'll be happy to help with the cancer compass 3-BP thread :)</p><p> </p> Metabolic Inhibitors johan https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1560 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1559 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0104 +0000 ^This is awesome!This is the start of a better thread experience for billions of people online.End thread oppression now. Join the cause by showing your support with a ^ at the start of you... <p>^</p><p>This is awesome!</p><p>This is the start of a better thread experience for billions of people online.</p><p>End thread oppression now. Join the cause by showing your support with a ^ at the start of your thread posts, all over the threadosphere. A people's movement dedicated to improving thread communication and the lives of billions of people begins now!! This is an idea too good not to be rapidly transformative. Look around at all the threads online now. I know of at least dozens of threads and they are all based on the same poorly designed model. The benefits are simply too large for this not to go viral. All those trolls who endlessly disrupt the flow of threads and often introduce abysmal thoughts into the collective consciousness can be marginalized. If you believe in a better future and want to make this a reality ^ </p><p>Johan, might you be able to assist me in applying the RSS technology to the cancer compass 3-BP thread. That thread has been almost completely unmanageable for quite some time now. Some pointers on how to go about using RSS or possibly you could just go over to the site and provide a url as you did above.</p> Metabolic Inhibitors Jcancom https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1559 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1558 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0015 +0000 Hmm, also very cool that the thread is now in reverse chonological order. (D was complaining recently that he had to scroll through many pages to reach the end of the thread. With reverse ch... <p>Hmm, also very cool that the thread is now in reverse chonological order. (D was complaining recently that he had to scroll through many pages to reach the end of the thread. With reverse chonological ordering the most recent post is at the top of the thread. Another way to go directly to the page that you want is to simply go up to the url and change the number after the word "paged" near the end of the url.)</p><p>Johan, could you show us that you can remix the thread by selecting a few posts on a theme that do not follow in sequence? Perhaps the recent posts that talk about remixing the threads? </p><p>It is amazing that this discussion could change the entire threadosphere. When I look around the thread space all the threads I see are pretty much the threads that we have here. On some forums the moderators are cranky all the time to people to stay on topic, stop being abusive to other posters etc. etc.. If they were to use the ideas we are discussing all of those issues would disappear. The idea of a people's programming language still might be helpful, though we can start off with the RSS technology that you have suggested. I think that the thread freedom symbol ( ^ ) should be taken up by the global thread community to express their support for this substantial development in thread technology. </p><p> </p> Metabolic Inhibitors Jcancom https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1558 RE: Combo Metformin And Syrosingopine!!!! Looks Awesome! https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1557 Sun, 24 Nov 2019 0055 +0000 @jcancomexactly, this could be an easy way to get started with the remixing, and we could look into adding more of your ideas later. As you mention, it's important D doesn't need to spend ti... <p>@jcancom</p><p>exactly, this could be an easy way to get started with the remixing, and we could look into adding more of your ideas later. As you mention, it's important D doesn't need to spend time on this, he's got enough on his plate already!</p> Metabolic Inhibitors johan https://www.cancertreatmentsresearch.com/community/metabolic-inhibitors/combo-metformin-and-syrosingopine-looks-awesome/paged/7/#post-1557

 

 

 


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Johan, can you edit threads that do not have the RSS symbol? For example, the 3-Bp cancer compass thread?  

 


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Very cool! I went to the Cancer Compass 3-BP thread and clicked on the RSS feed symbol for the thread (top right of the page).  This allowed me to download the entire contents of the thread! I then saved this into a text file. All I have to do now is edit this file and then submit it as an RSS feed? This would be great! The thread is completely unmanageable. Yet, as a text file I could index it, spell check it organize it, edit it ... . It would be so much more helpful for people looking for answers. This is a big step forward!

 


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Very cool! I went to the Cancer Compass 3-BP thread and clicked on the RSS feed symbol for the thread (top right of the page).  This allowed me to download the entire contents of the thread! I then saved this into a text file. All I have to do now is edit this file and then submit it as an RSS feed? This would be great! The thread is completely unmanageable. Yet, as a text file I could index it, spell check it organize it, edit it ... . It would be so much more helpful for people looking for answers. This is a big step forward!

 

Hi J, check out https://www.rssdog.com/ they can handle the file size of the 3bp thread.


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Whoa! Did they say easy and free? I like easy and free!

Yes, I noticed the rssdog.com url in the RSS feed though I was not sure that they would make it this accessible. Johan with the 3-BP text file could you make an edit or two (tell us what edits you made) and then submit it through the rssdog site and then we would have our very own new 3-BP thread with our own edits? I am worried that we can only give them a url and we will not be able to resubmit the text file XML without the RSS aggregator software. If we can simply download the thread contents, edit and then go through rssdog then we are ready to roll without top level administrator permission.

This is awesome!

 


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Below is the current RSS feed from the Combo Met and Syro!!!! ... thread. Johan might you show us how to edit this feed? My guess is that all that we need to do is edit the below and then it can be exported to a url and we are done. Once we know the editing process we are well on the way to moving this ahead. The only sticking point here is that now we need you to post the RSS feeds to your own blog. Ideally D could have the same RSS agregator software which would allow him to post the feeds here. The best that those without RSS knowledge could do now is edit the feeds and then post them to the forum and let D (or someone else) post them to an RSS.     

 

 

There's no need to edit the rss feed manually J, we can just use the RSS reader as demonstrated, and use a code snippet to publish the filtered/remixed content on any page (I already sent the code snippet for the METF+SYRO thread to D.)


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Johan, what software do you need to do the remix that you did? I would like to give this a try. I can do a remix with the software and then forward the url to D? 


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Hi Johan,

I cannot follow all the discussion. I received the code but where do I need to insert that and how that will help?

Please note that while using WordPress I do not work with editing code, but only with plugins. I prefer to stay away from making changes in the code in order to stay away from creating technical problems and spend days trying to solve those.

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Whoa! Did they say easy and free? I like easy and free!

Yes, I noticed the rssdog.com url in the RSS feed though I was not sure that they would make it this accessible. Johan with the 3-BP text file could you make an edit or two (tell us what edits you made) and then submit it through the rssdog site and then we would have our very own new 3-BP thread with our own edits? I am worried that we can only give them a url and we will not be able to resubmit the text file XML without the RSS aggregator software. If we can simply download the thread contents, edit and then go through rssdog then we are ready to roll without top level administrator permission.

This is awesome!

 

J, I've used the rssdog to make an iframe and posted the entire 3bp thread on my blog: https://tinyurl.com/wyv2v6f

Rssdog has limited editing options, the inoreader is awesome for this purpose but I haven't been able to load the 3bp thread, it's probably an issue with the size.


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Johan, this is great! Oftentimes with technical questions it can take days or longer to see any progress: Here we are making real time progress! Does inoreader allow you to take a part of a thread (subthread), say the last 10 pages of the 3-BP and make edits? The RSS you have on your blog does not include the user names, can the user names be included?


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Hi Johan,

I cannot follow all the discussion. I received the code but where do I need to insert that and how that will help?

Please note that while using WordPress I do not work with editing code, but only with plugins. I prefer to stay away from making changes in the code in order to stay away from creating technical problems and spend days trying to solve those.

Kind regards,
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Hi Daniel, the code snippet is actually just an iframe, which means it loads the content from somewhere else, in this case from the RSS service (inoreader). This doesn't create any issues with WordPress. 

I sent the snippet just in case you wanted to try it out and see if it's something that could be useful for the blog. The idea was to make it easier to find valuable content from the forum, in a format that's easier to read and hiding off-topic responses. So we came up with this format using RSS. Of course, this is just a suggestion. 

Say for example you'd decide the Metformin + syro thread was something you'd like to make more visible and serve only the content that's on topic in that thread, then you could post the an rss feed with the off topic posts filtered out to a a new page on your blog, and you'd only need to copy/paste the iframe code into a blank WordPress post or page. So you could have a category, say Popular Forum Posts, and for each new thread you'd like to offer this filtered format you'd just create a new blank page and paste the iframe in it.

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Thank you Johan! Clear! I do you control what you like to filter out (e.g. off topic aspects)?

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Johan, this is great! Oftentimes with technical questions it can take days or longer to see any progress: Here we are making real time progress! Does inoreader allow you to take a part of a thread (subthread), say the last 10 pages of the 3-BP and make edits? The RSS you have on your blog does not include the user names, can the user names be included?

J, I noticed that too, sometimes there's no username but not always e.g. "On Oct 18, 2019 12:02 AM Jcancom wrote: "

I'm checking on how we could use inoreader with your 3bp thread as that would be so much easier b/c of all the filtering and formatting options it offers.


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Thank you Johan! Clear! I do you control what you like to filter out (e.g. off topic aspects)?

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Hi D, yes you can add numerous criteria that have to be met to make the filtered feed, you control everything. 


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Thank you Johan. Is that done via https://www.inoreader.com and do you need a paid account there?


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Thank you Johan. Is that done via https://www.inoreader.com and do you need a paid account there?

yes, it's $4,99 per year for the PRO account. I'm going to send you my account info and if you decide this is something you'd like to use for the site you could create an account, Jcancom will pick up the tab, right J?  ? 


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Thanks Johan. I am not sure I want to use this on the Blog space as it looks like too much info and a little unorganised for most of the people - however it can help as an intermediate step for any of us when trying to select content. One other good idea that emerged out of this discussion is to use RSS feed with HOT topics so that is easier to get to them from the main page. Another point I realise could be good is to have from time to time discussions on what should be improved with this website. But that should be when we find time.

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D, are you able to open up the number of posts that the RSS feeds reports for any thread? johan mentioned that only 10 posts were accessible from RSS. Having the whole thread report as occurs on cancer compass (even when there is over 5,000 posts) would be great. It would allow Johan to show us the entire Met Syro thread processed and you would not need to do any of the background RSS processing.


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It's a great idea, but it needs to be polished a little bit, totally agree! 


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I think one other feature that will help us with organization of thread contents is to limit the size of threads. For example, the Syro Met thread is now 7 pages long. It has tentatively established the plausibility of the combination in humans and there is even a patient who has reported a complete response to treatment. What could happen now is that a new Syro Met page can open up. Posters could post summaries of what was learned in the first thread and if they chose could move to part 2 of the thread. Breaking up the threads in this way could be used to indicate that certain milestones had been achieved  (which would also make it easier for those searching the thread to assess different treatments. typically I think that perhaps part 3 or part 4 should be devoted human clinical dosing. Part 5 could be devoted to more pervasive human treatment in clinical trials or clinics. This would be a great way of organizing information. The parts could be organized on the thread so that people could go directly to those treatments that had at least some reported human anecdotal reports. 


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I think one other feature that will help us with organization of thread contents is to limit the size of threads. For example, the Syro Met thread is now 7 pages long. It has tentatively established the plausibility of the combination in humans and there is even a patient who has reported a complete response to treatment. What could happen now is that a new Syro Met page can open up. Posters could post summaries of what was learned in the first thread and if they chose could move to part 2 of the thread. Breaking up the threads in this way could be used to indicate that certain milestones had been achieved  (which would also make it easier for those searching the thread to assess different treatments. typically I think that perhaps part 3 or part 4 should be devoted human clinical dosing. Part 5 could be devoted to more pervasive human treatment in clinical trials or clinics. This would be a great way of organizing information. The parts could be organized on the thread so that people could go directly to those treatments that had at least some reported human anecdotal reports. 

Good idea J, and at the end of each thread we could post a remixed RSS, to make it even easier to find important info.


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Yes, Johan that is great! We can start to provide some structure to this thread to help people find what they are looking for. I think we should set up part 3 of the Syro Met forum. (Considering how advanced the clinical picture is, skipping part 2 seems reasonable.). I do not want to be pushy about this, as people can become attached to their threads. So, I will ask around to gauge for support first. Will anyone second the vote to post to the part 3 thread? Those who for whatever reason wanted to continue posting to the part 1 thread would be welcome to, though hopefully most of the posters will comply with moving to a new thread.

Perhaps I could write an introductory post on the part 3 thread to generally summarize and provide a context for what we found on part 1. When the part 1 thread started out, there were no reports of human treatment, yet as the thread continued on we did have the patient report from Inspire and several posters did express an interest in the combo, so the story has been in evolution as the thread has continued.This is to say that we made prospective comments that subsequently appear to have been validated. Often people tend to make predictions after things have happened. 


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my vote for part 3 🙂

I like the idea of a summary to start the new thread.


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Thank you Johan I knew I could count on your support. I will take about a week to write up my summary and then we can launch part 3 of the Syro and Met Combo thread. This work flow might become the standard procedure for the web site.

Basically, each new part can be seen as updating and incorporating knowledge gained from the previous versions. A more comprehensive view can be achieved when we take into consideration a range of opinions as expressed on the threads. This could also make it easier for D (if he wanted to write up the summaries or blog on forum threads) because the background leg work would have been done by those on the threads. It is so much easier when others can do some of the work for you.


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I like the idea of a written summary to start new thread! 


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Johan, I noticed on your blog page that ovarian cancer was found to have response to theobromine as an anti-angiogenesis agent (?). I wasn't able to navigate back to the link, it seems that the 3 November 2019 articles from the blog have changed around since I last visited.  Funnily enough (I think I might have mentioned this to D) there is a new type of toothpaste called Theodent that has theobromine as one of its main ingredients. It is supposed to make one's enamel super-strong. 


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D, I like the summary idea as well. With a blog post it is static, you write it and then it stays there. The threads allow it to be more fluid. The syro met story has evolved even since we first posted about it last January. Each time we start a new thread page we can reflect a new collective understanding of what the best estimate of the potential is for a treatment. Considering how much in motion 3-BP has been in the last few years, it would have been a great candidate to have as an active thread topic.   


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Hi J, the page on ovarian cancer is in the august archive. That page is actually still very much "under construction", haven't had time to get to it.

Here's the link to the study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9468592

 


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